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Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.01.19 17:51:00 - [1] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 19/01/2005 18:04:59 Wow thats pretty damn disapointing. Apart from being somewhat harder to kill the Gallente indys are just downgraded versions of the Mk5... The extra shield, hull and armor are nice but id rather see less of those and the same base cargo as the t1 versions. Btw: theres the new texture..All t2 ships have new textures. Not very industrialistic... The Occator only holds 400m3 of cargo extra compard to an itty mk 5... I also have a feeling freighters will require Industrial lvl 3 or something... --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.01.19 18:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 19/01/2005 18:16:32 Originally by: Iachrites Archveult 1) The not enough cargo space brigade - basically unimaginative and not able to realize that CCP will make you pay a penalty for large cargo sizes and pay that penalty bigtime. They have little intention of making mass-mining easier - this is why Freighters will be station to station only. (My interpretation is that it means the class won't be able to pick up or unload in space.) Obviously anyone who needs cargo space is a miner... Nobody in their right mind could require cargo space for anything silly like trading, missions or simply transporting junk around. Noooooo CCP has to come up something like an indy which can run trough blockades... Yay blockade running in an indy! Solo! Yay! Right? Screw that, Screw mining, the only reason I wasted 40 ******* days on Industrial level 5 was so I could lots of junk at once. Well see if Freighters require Indy lvl 5, though I highly doubt it because that would encourage specializationà. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.01.19 18:44:00 - [3] Originally by: Taumenka Originally by: Sewell Wow! Those minmatar indys really look... inferior to the other races... Max Cargo with all local hull Amarr/Impel: 21837 m3 Gallente/Occator: 21419 m3 Caldari/Bustard: 18488 m3 Minmatar/Mastodon: 17647 m3 More than 4k diffenrece in cargo space between the minmatar and amarr indy. Amarr for teh win? How did you calculate those numbers ? Here are some fresh from the spreadsheet: Amarr: 27296m3 Gallente: 26774m3 Caldari: 23110m3 Minmatar: 22059m3 Still "Amarr for teh win" but still a bit bigger cargo then a t1 indy. Also as any other t2 ship I expect lvl 5 industrial skill. As the resistances suggest so is the case. Those numbers would depend on the type of cargo expanders...its safe to assume most people dont have 6 Local Hull's Not mention stuff 4-6 Local Hull's on a ship which cannot be insured is a good way of losing lots of money in a single fight --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.01.19 20:19:00 - [4] Quote: Noooooo CCP has to come up something like an indy which can run trough blockades... Yay blockade running in an indy! Solo! Yay! Right? Screw that, Screw mining, the only reason I wasted 40 ******* days on Industrial level 5 was so I could lots of junk at once. Well see if Freighters require Indy lvl 5, though I highly doubt it because that would encourage specializationà. I predict Indy 3/4 and a Freighter skill - they are tech 1... Exactly, 40 more days wasted trying to be good at something when every n00b and his mom will soon be able to haul amounts of junk around. CCP keeps talking about specializing in things, advanced weapons, special ships, why not hauling? Why the hell should anyone with 1 week of free time be able to haul 100km3? --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.01.20 15:54:00 - [5] The 2 new types of indy are cute, theyre quite usefull in 0.0 but i cant help wondering where most of the indys live? Or most of the players for that matter. On a daily basis, what do the devs think indys are used more for? Blockade running or hauling large amounts of cargo? Somehow i think its hauling normal cargo... The blockade and deep space ones are nice and im sure theyll come in handy but theyll be nowhere near as usefull as an indy with more cargo space. So people say Freighters will come...No mention as to wether theyre T1 or T2, only that they will have specialized cargo bays. I hope theyll be Tech II, if not then we need a 3rd T2 indy, one with the same or less hull/armor/shield and more base cargo or low slots. Perhaps no turret or missile slots and maybe even less speed. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

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